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Computerised book of remembrance 'an insult' to grieving families

Plans for a computerised book of remembrance at a west Cumbrian crematorium will make grieving for a loved one like a “visit to the cashpoint”, a councillor has claimed.

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Oh ok Brian you seem to know all about it, you worked there have you ?????????????
obviously you have not got a loved one at Distington Hall by your comments and remarks.
But go in then we will let you have the final say seen as you know all.

Posted by Gillian on 25 March 2011 at 21:09

Yes, but if you read this properly and understand the article you will see that currently it is manned but it cannot afford to be manned anymore, therefore it was proposed that it was closed which wasn't good enough, so now it will be left open and unmanned.

I think it is you that needs to understand what you are commenting on before you reply.

Posted by Brian on 25 March 2011 at 07:33

Dear Brian
Refering to your comment to SH for your information the Chaple of remembrance is manned Monday to Friday and the opening times are on the door for all to see, you can go to the main office where you will be able to speak to staff all week. Saturdays and sundays have always been manned for visitors to go and see the book and have any questions answered.About you saying people need to get with the program the i suggest you find out the rights before commenting any further.

SH well said you obviously are with this so called Program.

Posted by Gillian on 24 March 2011 at 10:17

Dear SH,

You're a regular shouty mcshouterston aren't you?

The councillor (Brian) wants this open and manned throughout the week. This isn't possible due to money constraints. So either it should be closed or left unmanned. People need to get with the program here and understand that not everything is possible.

Posted by Brian on 23 March 2011 at 09:50

well refering to John's comment on gross over reaction, decent people do not expect the council to do every thing for them but to respect and listen to the residents. Why should council tax paying residents raise funds to pay the council's Bill when we are paying a substantial amount to the council already.

BRIAN ye we will get it right it was not just Mr Dixon who held a campaign i was also present at the council meeting to be told they had shelved the idea to close the Chaple of Remembrance, only next to be told that it was to remain open unmanned from 15.30hrs friday until 08.30hrs Monday morning, THAT IS ALL DAY AND NIGHT,We are not wanting every thing as you have said, we just want some care and compassion shown to the many Bereaved familys that have loved ones at Distington Hall Crematorium, I DONT THINK THAT IS TOO MUCH TO ASK !!!!

Posted by Gillian on 22 March 2011 at 20:19

Yes Brian the Chaple is going to remain OPEN AND UNMANNED AT THE WEEKENDS WITH NO REMEMBERANCE BOOK IN IT, THIS IS WHERE THE
HOLE IN THE WALL COMES IN, BUT AN OPEN DOOR FROM FRIDAY AFTERNOON RIGHT THROUGH UNTILL MONDAY MORNING, WHAT BETTER INVITATION TO A BEAUTIFULL CHAPLE BEING VANDALISED, WHERE MOST LIKELY IT WILL BE A RELATIVE VISITING THE CHAPLE TO THEIR LOVED ONES WHO WILL FIND COMPLETE DESTRUCTION, SO NOW DO YOU SEE THE CONCERN ?????????????????????

Posted by SH on 22 March 2011 at 19:49

John, your 'leap of logic' is fairly absurd. You went from effectively saying that people were 'idly moaning' to that they simply 'take, take, take' from society - quite an illogical leap, I'd say.
Showing the contrast between people's situations in Japan and Libya versus the people who feel wronged by the council's attempt at saving money is also a fairly low and silly thing to say - following that logic why should we be entitled to complain about almost anything in our lives - losing our jobs, government cuts, rising crime etc ad nauseum - because there's always somebody worse off than us in Japan or Libya.
I won't even bother commenting on the person's comments who tried to draw a reasonable comparison between this proposal and the mobile phones we have in our pockets as the point of people's grievances was fairly obviously missed.People who are against this proposal are not necessarily Luddites nor technophobes.
The point is is that the council are doing something which many people will consider wholly distasteful, and it's not for a noble reason, it's to save a paltry sum of money, a theme which people seem to be increasingly sick and tired of in these days of 'government spending cuts', and it seems entirely understandable that people should get upset about this kind of thing when it comes to remembering loved ones.
The councillor makes a poor 'cash point' analogy, but I think ultimately the money hoped to be saved should be weighed against the offence the proposal causes to people, and these people who should 'get a life' according to John are letting it be known that they are certainly offended - for my money (even though they're not protesting in the streets) there's not much wrong with that.

Posted by M. Sagan on 22 March 2011 at 14:07

So lets get this right, they wanted to close it but didn't because Mr Dixon held a campaign.

Right ok, fine.

So they've kept it open. But now that they've kept it open he wants it manned as well. Come on Brian, you can't have everything.

Posted by Brian on 22 March 2011 at 12:19

This is a bad move.
When I lost my grandparents they were noted in the book at our local cemetry.
I like to go and look on those special days and remember them in the time honoured way. Going digital is not an option.
For pity's sake. How much is a book????
And how much will it cost to plan for and purchase a custom spec piece of one off equipment to replace it???
Bearing in mind that the price always goes up for government purchases. More money down the drain in the name of saving peanuts.
Let the guy or girl keep their job and stop penny pinching over cumbrous grief and history.

As for those that don't get to see the book and miss the opportunity.
With all due respect, surely you could make the effort to travel; they are family after all.

Posted by Dan on 21 March 2011 at 20:43

My Gran died in 1990 and was cremated over a hundred miles away from where I live and I would love to be able to see her entry in the Book of Remembrance, even if it was online.

Posted by Laura on 21 March 2011 at 13:29

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